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Can Rivian Self Driving Edge Past Tesla and Waymo?

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In May 2026, Rivan’s CEO, RJ Scaringe, watched R2s being built at the company’s manufacturing facility in Normal, Illinois. I’m sitting in a Rivian R1S SUV as it drives itself down the leafy streets of Palo Alto, Calif., through areas crowded with touchstones of tech history. We cruise near the landmark HP Garage, the one-car workshop where Hewlett-Packard, and, arguably, Silicon Valley, was founded in 1939. I skirt Stanford University, where a team led by computer science professor Sebastian Thrun won a US $2 million DARPA Grand Challenge in 2005. The team’s Volkswagen SUV, named Stanley, became the world’s first vehicle to navigate a grueling 212-kilometer Mojave Desert course with no human intervention.This Rivian might look like any other electric SUV in this affluent town, with its concentration of tech bros, venture capital, and startups. But inside this boxy EV is something special: an Autonomy+ system that will allow owners to enter an address, sit back, and let the vehicle drive to any mapped destination in the U.S. and Canada. This point-to-point system is one of the most advanced semiautonomous-driving systems coming to market. It is also a precursor of the company’s bid to make self-driving cars a reality, for robotaxis and—eventually—for everyday car buyers. After years of incremental advances and frustrating setbacks, self-driving has been swept up in the great AI resurgence, and is now a top priority for investors and global automakers, who envision vast new streams of profits.So here I am, 21 years after that DARPA challenge, riding shotgun in Stanley’s vastly more advanced descendant. Rivian’s Autonomy+ is intended to operate seamlessly on suburban streets like these, sensing and responding to traffic lights, crosswalks, and stop signs. That point-to-point system is set to debut on Rivian’s all-new R2 SUV by roughly the end of this year, and via over-the-air updates for its newest R1S and R1T models. Rivian says it will charge $49.99 a month, or $2,500 up front, versus Tesla’s $99 per month for its rival system, which is somewhat misleadingly called Full Self-Driving (Supervised), or FSD. Mercedes, meanwhile, plans to charge $3,950 for a three-year subscription for the forthcoming MB.Drive Assist Pro on its CLA-Class EV; that system still requires at least one hand on the steering wheel. Video released by Rivian shows the company’s R1 SUV being driven on a variety of urban and rural roads, according to the company. Rivian plans to introduce this self-driving system to compete with Tesla’s offering before the end of 2026. Rivian Impressive as it is, Autonomy+ is only a Level 2+ system in the classification system established by the Society of Automotive Engineers. Level 2+ means that a human driver must pay full attention and be ready to retake control at any moment. Rivian, along with a horde of deep-pocketed rivals, is aggressively working toward more impressive (and potentially lucrative) levels of autonomy. At Level 3, drivers could “check out” behind the wheel for limited periods, to scroll through emails or watch a movie—but not to sleep.The big race right now is to deliver Level 4 autonomy: A car you could (in theory) dispatch to pick up a pizza, and have it carted home on the heated, unoccupied driver’s seat—or in which you could spend the ride lounging alone in the back seat, enjoying a private slice while reading a newspaper. At Rivian’s software lab in Palo Alto, Calif., a technician evaluated code for the company’s self-driving system.Jason Henry/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesRobotaxis currently roaming select cities in the U.S., China, and the Middle East have proved that driverless, Level 4 autonomy is possible. These cars operate in relatively tiny numbers in a couple of dozen cities, and within the specific constraints of commercial services. Now Rivian and its many rivals—including Tesla, Toyota, Mercedes, Volkswagen, and China’s BYD—are racing to bring that level of self-guided mobility to the masses. Rivian’s strategy combines a suite of cameras, radar, and lidar; a custom set of silicon chips, developed in-house, to process sensor data; and an AI autonomy model running on those chips. With $1.25 billion in backing from Uber, Rivian plans to graduate to a fleet of self-driving, Level 4 robotaxis starting in 2028. Those taxis, along with Rivian’s consumer fleet, will be the literal training wheels for extending Level 4 ability to consumer vehicles.Meanwhile, millions of connected cars, as they cruise every nook and cranny of the globe, are already sending data to train automakers’ systems. The race is on to funnel those data through fast-improving AI models with “end to end” capability: an AI architecture, powered by deep learning, that processes raw sensor data directly into physical vehicle commands. So equipped, engineers anticipate they’ll be able to solve the tricky edge cases—tangled urban streets, unique geographies, swarms of pedestrians, inclement weather—that skeptics once deemed intractable.Rivian’s Plan for Level 4 Self-Driving Despite the company’s high media profile, including a spotlight on RJ Scaringe, its MIT-doctorate founder and chief executive, Rivian holds a relatively tiny slice of the U.S. passenger-vehicle market. It sold just 42,000 vehicles last year across its three models, the adventure-minded R1S SUV and R1T pickup, and the Electric Delivery Van. Tesla sold about 1.6 million units. Toyota, the world’s largest automaker, sold more than 11 million. The first generation of the Rivian Autonomy Processor, an AI processing chip developed in-house, was tested at Rivian’s Palo Alto, Calif., lab in December, 2025. Jason Henry/Bloomberg/Getty ImagesRivian’s underdog strategy is to leverage software and tech to make itself a serious player. Volkswagen, among the world’s largest automakers, saw enough value there to invest up to $5.8 billion in a joint venture called Rivian and Volkswagen Group Technologies. The joint venture gives Rivian crucial capital for development. It gives Volkswagen access to Rivian’s electrical architecture and to the software for the R2, new-generation Rivian SUV that went on sale in June. Unlike traditional lidar units, which protrude like a layer cake from the roof of a vehicle, Rivian’s unit on the new R2 SUV is housed in a small, sleek enclosure where the windshield meets the roof.Rivian (2);Jason Henry/Bloomberg/Getty Images“Rivian developed an architecture so important that VW is spending billions to buy it, as opposed to trying to re-create it themselves,” says Bryan Reimer, a research scientist in MIT’s Center for Transportation and Logistics.But the joint venture doesn’t give VW access to Rivian’s autonomous tech. In March, that R2 architecture underpinned Rivian’s $1.25 billion deal to supply Uber with up to 50,000 robotaxis. The companies plan to initially deploy 10,000 taxis, beginning in San Francisco and Miami in 2028, before expanding across 25 cities in the U.S., Canada, and Europe.Rivian’s vulnerabilities include struggles with reliability, along with expensive body repair costs that the company says it strove to reduce for its new R2. As impressive as Rivian’s in-house tech may appear, the company has miles to go to catch up with Tesla, which recently announced it has 1.1 million active users of its FSD system. Toyota is also jumping into the game; its Woven by Toyota subsidiary has partnered with the Alphabet-owned Waymo to develop an autonomy platform for robotaxis and consumer cars. The lidar unit on a Waymo robotaxi protrudes noticeably from the roof of the vehicle.Andrej Sokolow/picture alliance/Getty ImagesUntil recently, most observers would have gone all-in on Tesla as the winner of the autonomous race. Elon Musk’s company has begun operating a small test fleet of Model Y robotaxis in three Texas cities and in Florida. Tesla has also begun producing a dedicated autonomous vehicle, the Cybercab robotaxi. But in April, Musk pushed back his timeline for Level 4 autonomy for general consumers: “I’m just guessing here, but probably in the fourth quarter” of 2026, he said. It was the latest in a series of deflating walkbacks from the man who once promised 1 million robotaxis on the road by 2020.Scaringe, during our drive of his company’s make-or-break R2 SUV at a Utah state park, says that showroom Rivians will start adopting some of its robotaxis’ Level 4 capabilities no later than 2030, perhaps beginning with self-parking functions.How Self-Driving Systems Are Learning From HumansLike most autonomous cars, Rivian’s system fuses data from multiple sensors to create a robust picture of a fast-moving environment and its obstacles. Data is fed to a neural network—what Rivian refers to as its “Large Driving Model,” or LDM—that churns through hundreds of trillions of operations per second to interpret and fuse data from cameras, radar, and lidar. That network is end to end, meaning that it processes multiple streams of raw sensor data (such as camera pixels) and outputs driving controls (for steering, braking, and acceleration) through a single data pipeline. More traditional systems coded distinct steps for data collection, feature extraction, prediction, and decision-making.That proprietary AI driver identifies features in images and point clouds, groups them into objects, and tracks them across frames, time-stamped to the millisecond to account for differing frame rates. The AI thus builds confidence over time, acting on object detections that persist across several frames, rather than, say, slamming the brakes due to a camera blip on a single frame. The virtual driver can then navigate safely even when sensors disagree, by favoring the persistent data. The output— commands for electric motors and other systems—is backed by redundant hardware for by-wire systems such as steering and brakes.During my demo of Rivian’s point-to-point Autonomy+ system, a company test driver sits behind the wheel. Nick Nguyen, the