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Published on: April 9, 2026 Categories: Programming Everybody seems to agree we’re in the middle of something, though what, exactly, seems to be up for debate. It might be an unprecedented revolution in productivity and capabilities, perhaps even the precursor to a technological “singularity” beyond which it’s impossible to guess what the world might look like. It might be just another vaporware hype cycle that will blow over. It might be a dot-com-style bubble that will lead to a big crash but still leave us with something useful (the way the dot-com bubble drove mass adoption of the web). It might be none of those things.Many thousands of words have already been spent arguing variations of these positions. So of course today I’m going to throw a few thousand more words at it, because that’s what blogs are for. At least all the ones you’ll read here were written by me (and you can pry my em-dashes from my cold, dead hands).Terminology, and picking a laneBut first, a couple quick notes:I’m going to be using the terms “LLM” and “LLMs” almost exclusively in this post, because I think the precision is useful. “AI” is a vague and overloaded term, and it’s too easy to get bogged down in equivocations and debates about what exactly someone means by “AI”. And virtually everything that’s contentious right now about programming and “AI” is really traceable specifically to the advent of large language models. I suppose a slightly higher level of precision might come from saying “GPT” instead, but OpenAI keeps trying to claim that one as their own exclusive term, which is a different sort of unwelcome baggage. So “LLMs” it is.And when I talk about “LLM coding”, I mean use of an LLM to generate code in some programming language. I use this as an umbrella term for all such usage, whether done under human supervision or not, whether used as the sole producer of code (with no human-generated code at all) or not, etc.

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I’m also going to try to limit my comments here to things directly related to technology and to programming as a profession, because that’s what I know (I have a degree in philosophy, so I’m qualified to comment on some other aspects of LLMs, but I’m deliberately staying away from them in this post because I find a lot of those debates tedious and literally sophomoric, as in reminding me of things I was reading and discussing when I was a sophomore).If you’re using an LLM in some other field, well, I probably don’t know that field well enough to usefully comment on it. Having seen some truly hot takes from people who didn’t follow this principle, I’ve thought several times that we really need some sort of cute portmanteau of “LLM” and “Gell-Mann Amnesia” for the way a lot of LLM-related discourse seems to be people expecting LLMs to take over every job and field except their own.No silver bulletA few years ago I wrote about Fred Brooks’ No Silver Bullet, and said I think it may have been the best thing Brooks ever wrote. If you’ve never read No Silver Bullet, I strongly recommend you do so, and I recommend you read the whole thing for yourself (rather than just a summary of it).No Silver Bullet was published at a time when computing hardware was advancing at an incredible rate, but our ability to build software was not even close to keeping up. And so Brooks made a bold prediction about software: There is no single development, in either technology or management technique, which by itself promises even a single order-of-magnitude improvement within a decade in productivity, in reliability, in simplicity. To support this he looked at sources of difficulty in software development, and assigned them to two broad categories (emphasis as in the original): Following Aristotle, I divide them into essence—the difficulties inherent in the nature of the software—and accidents—those difficulties that today attend its production but that are not inherent. A classic example is memory management: some programming languages require the programmer to manually allocate, keep track of, and free memory, which is a source of difficulty. And this is accidental difficulty, because there’s nothing which inherently requires it; plenty of other programming languages have automatic memory management.But other sources of difficulty are different, and seem to be inherent to software development itself.

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Here’s one of the ways Brooks summarizes it (emphasis matches what’s in my copy of No Silver Bullet): The essence of a software entity is a construct of interlocking concepts: data sets, relationships among data items, algorithms, and invocations of functions. This essence is abstract, in that the conceptual construct is the same under many different representations. It is nonetheless highly precise and richly detailed. I believe the hard part of building software to be the specification, design, and testing of this conceptual construct, not the labor of representing it and testing the fidelity of the representation. We still make syntax errors, to be sure; but they are fuzz compared to the conceptual errors in most systems. If this is true, building software will always be hard. There is inherently no silver bullet. And to drive the point home, he also explains the diminishing returns of only addressing accidental difficulty: How much of what software engineers now do is still devoted to the accidental, as opposed to the essential? Unless it is more than 9/10 of all effort, shrinking all the accidental activities to zero time will not give an order of magnitude improvement. This is a straightforward mathematical argument. If its two empirical premises—that the accidental/essential distinction is real and that the accidental difficulty remaining today does not represent 90%+ of total—are true, then the conclusion which rules out an order-of-magnitude gain from reducing accidental difficulty follows automatically.I think most programmers believe the first premise, at least implicitly, and once the first premise is accepted it becomes very difficult to argue against the second. In fact, I’d personally go further than the minimum required for Brooks’ argument. His math holds up as long as accidental difficulty doesn’t reach that 90%+ mark, since anything lower makes a 10x improvement from eliminating accidental difficulty impossible. But I suspect accidental difficulty, today, is a vastly smaller proportion of the total than that. In a lot of mature domains of programming I’d be surprised if there’s even a doubling of productivity still available from a complete elimination of remaining accidental difficulty.There’s also a section in No Silver Bullet about potential “hopes for the silver” which addresses “AI”, though what Brooks considered to be “AI” (and there is a tangent about clarifying exactly what the term means) was significantly different from what’s promoted today as “AI”.

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The most apt comparison to LLMs in No Silver Bullet is actually not the discussion of “AI”, it’s the discussion of automatic programming, which has meant a lot of different things over the years, but was defined by Brooks at the time as “the generation of a program for solving a problem from a statement of the problem specifications”. That’s pretty much the task for which LLMs are currently promoted to programmers.But Brooks quotes David Parnas on the topic: “automatic programming always has been a euphemism for programming with a higher-level language than was presently available to the programmer.” And Brooks did not believe higher-level languages on their own could be a silver bullet. As he put it in a discussion of the Ada language: It is, after all, just another high-level language, and the biggest payoff from such languages came from the first transition, up from the accidental complexities of the machine into the more abstract statement of step-by-step solutions. Once those accidents have been removed, the remaining ones are smaller, and the payoff from their removal will surely be less. Many people are currently promoting LLMs as a revolutionary step forward for software development, but are doing so based almost exclusively on claims about LLMs’ ability to generate code at high speed. The No Silver Bullet argument poses a problem for these claims, since it sets a limit on how much we can gain from merely generating code more quickly.In chapter 2 of The Mythical Man-Month, Brooks suggested as a scheduling guideline that five-sixths (83%) of time on a “software task” would be spent on things other than coding, which puts a pretty low cap on productivity gains from speeding up just the coding. And even if we assume LLMs reduce coding time to zero, and go with the more generous No Silver Bullet formulation which merely predicts no order-of-magnitude gain from a single development, that’s still less than the gain Brooks himself believed could come from hiring good human programmers. From chapter 3 of The Mythical Man-Month: Programming managers have long recognized wide productivity variations between good programmers and poor ones. But the actual measured magnitudes have astounded all of us. In one of their studies, Sackman, Erikson, and Grant were measuring performances of a group of experienced programmers.

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Within just this group the ratios between best and worst performances averaged about 10:1 on productivity measurements and an amazing 5:1 on program speed and space measurements! (although I’m personally skeptical of the “10x programmer” concept, the software industry overall does seem to accept it as true)Anecdote time: much of what I’ve done over my career as a professional programmer is building database-backed web applications and services, and I don’t see much of a gain from LLMs. I suppose it looks impressive, if you’re not familiar with this field of programming, to auto-generate the skeleton of an entire application and the basic create/retrieve/update/delete HTTP handlers from no more than a description of the data you want to work with. But that capability predates LLMs: Rails’ scaffolding, for example, could do it twenty years ago.And not just raw code generation, but also the abstractions available to work with, have progressed to the point where I basically never feel like the raw speed of production of code is holding me back. Just as Fred Brooks would have predicted, the majority of my time is spent elsewhere: talking to people who want new software (or who want existing software to be changed); finding out what it is they want and need; coming up with an initial specification; breaking it down into appropriately-sized pieces for programmers (maybe me, maybe someone else) to work on; testing the first prototype and getting feedback; preparing the next iteration; reviewing or asking for review, etc. I haven’t personally tracked whether it matches Brooks’ five-sixths estimate, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it did.Given all that, just having an LLM churn out code faster than I would have myself is not going to offer me an order of magnitude improvement, or anything like it. Or as a recent popular blog post by the CEO of Tailscale put it: AI’s direct impact on this problem is minimal. Okay, so Claude can code it in 3 minutes instead of 30? That’s super, Claude, great work.