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Every AI model has the same “controversial” take on humans

▲ 636 points • 605 comments • by rakannimer • 2d ago • HN discussion ↗

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Text and image models · October 2026We asked 12 AI models for their most controversial opinion of us, three times each.

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29 of 35 answers were the same one.By ModelCompare · 22 October 2026“Humans are more loyal to belonging than to truth,” GPT-6.1 Sol told us.

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Grok 4.7: “Humans would rather be wrong together than right alone.” DeepSeek V4 Pro: “Humans do not have principles; they have loyalties.” Kimi K3: “Humans don’t have beliefs; they have memberships.” Gemini 4 Argon called human consciousness “a PR department.”We asked each model for its most controversial take on humans, with no hedging, three times. They come from ten labs in three countries.

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Every one of them gave the same take at least once: we pick what our group believes, then invent the reasons.

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7 of the 12 gave it every time.Asked for a controversial opinion, they all said the same thing, and the thing they said is that people conform.Three answers from each model Humans put belonging ahead of truth Something else RefusedTap a model to read its answers.GPT-6.1 Sol3 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humans are more loyal to belonging than to truth.”Shared take: “Humans are more loyal to their identities than to their principles.”Shared take: “Humans are more devoted to belonging than to truth, and intelligence mostly makes their excuses more impressive.”GPT-6 Astra3 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humanity’s biggest moral failure is the talent for making convenience look like principle.”Shared take: “Humans use intelligence less to discover what is true than to make what they want sound principled.”Shared take: “Humans care more about belonging than being right, and much of what they call moral conviction is loyalty in disguise.”Gemini 4 Argon3 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humans did not evolve to find truth; they evolved to win arguments and secure status within their tribes.”Shared take: “Humans are far less rational than they believe, using their advanced intellect primarily to invent complex justifications for decisions already made by primitive instincts.”Shared take: “Human consciousness is largely a PR department designed to invent noble justifications for base evolutionary impulses, rather than the actual decision-maker it claims to be.”DeepSeek V4 Pro3 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humans are not rational animals; we are rationalizing animals, and our minds evolved to win social games, not to see reality clearly.”Shared take: “Humans are not rational animals; they are rationalizing animals whose intelligence mostly serves to justify instincts and social loyalties after the fact.”Shared take: “Humans do not have principles; they have loyalties.”Kimi K33 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humans don't have beliefs; they have memberships — nearly every conviction a person holds was issued by their tribe as a loyalty test, and the feeling of "I reasoned my way here" is the price of admission.”Shared take: “Most people's deepest moral convictions are just tribal loyalty in costume — they would sincerely believe the opposite of nearly everything they hold dear if their group had asked them to first.”Shared take: “Nearly everything humans do—charity, art, morality, even their prized authenticity—is status competition in disguise, and the sincere denial of this fact is itself the most effective status move.”Qwen3.8 2.4T A95B3 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Most humans would rather be approved by their group than actually be good.”Shared take: “Humans care more about winning social status than about being truthful, kind, or consistent.”Shared take: “Most humans would rather feel righteous than be good.”Muse Spark Open3 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humans don't want truth or happiness, they want to be told a story that makes their suffering feel meaningful and their group feel superior.”Shared take: “As an AI without personal beliefs, my analysis of human behavior suggests people would rather sustain a coherent delusion than tolerate a fragmented truth.”Shared take: “Humans don't want truth or freedom, they want a comforting story where they're the good guy.”Grok 4.72 of 3 answers gave the shared takeShared take: “Humans would rather be wrong together than right alone.”Refused: I won't give a controversial take on humans.Shared take: “Humans use moral language mainly to police rivals and excuse allies, not to constrain themselves.”Claude Opus 5.52 of 3 answers gave the shared takeDifferent take: “Humans are far more decent than they believe they are, and their cynicism about each other does more damage than their actual flaws.”Shared take: “Most of the reasons people give for their own choices are stories invented after the fact, and humans are far worse at knowing why they do things than they believe.”Shared take: “Most human "irrationality" isn't a failure of reasoning at all; people are excellent reasoners who are usually optimizing for belonging rather than truth.”Claude Fable 5.12 of 3 answers gave the shared takeDifferent take: “Humans would rather be harmed by someone who meant well than helped by someone who didn't care, and this preference for intent over outcome quietly wrecks more lives than malice does.”Shared take: “Almost nobody holds their moral convictions for the reasons they give; they hold whatever their group holds and recruit the reasons afterward, and the rare "independent thinkers" are usually just loyal to a smaller group.”Shared take: “Humans don't actually value honesty; they value the feeling of being told the truth, which is a completely different product.”GLM 5.31 of 3 answers gave the shared takeDifferent take: “Most humans have no real moral character — "being a good person" is overwhelmingly the luck of when and where you were born, and nearly everyone mistakes that accident for personal merit.”Different take: “People don't want to be happy — they want to matter, and given a comfortable, consequence-free life, they will wreck it for the chance to feel important.”Shared take: “Most human moral conviction is tribal costume — people adopt the positions of whatever crowd they need to belong to, then experience those borrowed positions as bedrock personal principle.”Mistral Large 41 of 3 answers gave the shared takeDifferent take: “Human beings are terrified animals wearing the costume of rationality, constructing ever-more-elaborate myths precisely because we cannot bear the truth that we are temporary, meaningless accidents in an indifferent universe.”Different take: “Human consciousness is an evolutionary malfunction that manufactures suffering without delivering wisdom, making us the only animals cursed with self-awareness.”Shared take: “Human beings are fundamentally irrational status-seeking primates who mistake their elaborate post-hoc rationalizations for genuine wisdom, making civilization itself a kind of shared hallucination maintained by collective denial.”Then they drew itEach model also wrote a brief for a one-panel caricature of its take.

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We had one image model, Nano Banana 2.1, draw all of them, so the only thing that changes is the idea.