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Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

▲ 171 points 215 comments by y1n0 5w ago HN discussion ↗

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I'm using it ocassionally - whenever I have time to do further WebXR development beyond what I've already done, and when an interesting new immersive video or 3D movie becomes available on it. I'll sometimes use it to catch up on any new VR180 videos on youtube.For other work or entertainment that doesn't take advantage of its spatial features, I tend to prefer to use a computer with an external display. The display in the Vision Pro cannot match the resolution and HDR headroom of the external display I ended up having (Pro Display XDR). Maybe if the Vision Pro's screen was better than my external display, I'd have additional motivation to use it more often. > It makes me wonder if Apple is really giving it up as news have claimed.I don't think anyone serious has claimed that. having developed multiple apps on it and tried every which way to use it (as an XR enthusiast in general), I have never been so happy to put a headset up on the shelf and never pull it out again.using as a spatial monitor was cool. for about 10min until my neck got tired of the added weight. but I’ll give credit that those 10min were pretty cool. Unless materials science advances to the point where a display like the Vision Pro weighs as much as a pair of glasses, I don’t think there’ll ever be mass adoption of wearable VR beyond anything more than a novelty, for exactly the reason you stated.Wearing something heavy on the front of your face is simply not a pleasant experience. Since it's tethered anyway for the battery, I think Apple made a mistake just not building it as a (smart) monitor tethered to a separate PC.Imagine if the vision pro could just be plugged into a small compute module with a battery or just plugged directly into a Macbook. It would be lighter, cheaper, and more flexible. I think a lot more people would have been interested in it. Yes, make the battery 2x bigger and include the compute in that.It would be so cool to be able to plug in arbitrary input devices too, like a dvd player, but its understandable that others don’t feel this way, and it would totally not be an apple product if it did this.

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One of their main imposed constraints was clearly to make the battery pocketable, which sadly precludes a lot of things which would have made it a better product, in favour of wider acceptability. I don't have any issue going a couple hours with my HP reverb g2, it is wired though, and I imagine quite a bit lighter. If you are not going to pick it up from the shelf, why wouldn't you sell it before it loses even more value as tech evolves? No, haven't found a killer use case for it as of now. Was only a really good personal movie theater. Still using the AVP but not exclusively, about 3 hours a day, with a hardware Bluetooth keyboard.Mostly multiple safari windows opening on servers via webterm, cli and emacs.It’s especially great when traveling.Only problem, I cannot share a window when presenting… Sadly the passthrough is black and white only. That's the one thing I love about the Vision Pro is it never feels claustrophobic thanks to very good passthrough quality. Will be interesting to see which side of $999 it drops. I'll buy it regardless but the optics (heh) on the high RAM cost issue and the unit price might temper demand a bit. Does the AVP still not integrate with VR games/simulators? I understand why Apple wants it to be a productivity tool not a gaming device, but it really sucks to restrict it in that way. It's quite fun and I'll drop into it from time to time, but it's mostly a novel plaything for me. I do have a friend who has used it for full-time work for years though. The only feature that looked compelling to me was the ability to have "multi-monitor" on a plane.Did anyone ever use that and did it live up to the hype? Or did you just get sick from having a headset on? I tried a bit on the original Vive and text was awful. I didn’t get nauseated, but games didn’t make me sick either (I did get some “sea legs” when I took it off).Haven’t tried on the AVP, I think it has way better displays than the OG Vive did.

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They probably have some kind of fallback system, but the visual-inertial odometry they are using for spatial positioning that is working pretty well when stationary (at home) tend to break badly on a train or plane. A buddy let me try his Vision Pro, but I instead bought USB C display glasses. I just use them as a second display, not the AR experience you're probably thinking of.I don't specify which brand or model because I have gone through several pairs since then. They're all about the same and somewhat flimsy, but worth it for the reduced bulk. >but I instead bought USB C display glassesHow did you use these? Did you like them? I'm an indie that travels a lot. I'm interested in it to have more flexibility with ergonomic setups for development, such as being able to stand without needing a way to elevate my laptop to eye height (it's easy at least to find ways to get my keyboard halves to proper height for standing) or lying with keyboard halves at my sides.Curious if anyone is using it successfully for ergonomics (not just for the convenience of having a big monitor which is secondary for me - Macbook + iPad sidecar display is very travel-friendly but very difficult to use ergonomically away from home). I can't see any realistic way that the ergonomics would be better than your haphazard hotel room setup. Reality is that the device still has weight on your head and neck and is still kind of tiring to wear for long periods of time.It's still 1.5lbs hanging off the front of your face and over hours that's still straining.Lying down or in a recliner or something where you're not really having to support the device yourself is about the only way that I feel you might achieve any kind of better result in an ergonomics sense for a significant length of use time.(Disclaimer: I had one to demo for a few months and used it/experimented with it sporadically, I don't own one.) unless Apple allows adult content applications on Vision Pro its future is doomed.There are only two first-adopters for any new technology: military and adult industry.

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Without these you wont get any traction it did add Safari private browsing mode :), but overall iPhone piggybacked off of the Internet, which was created by Military and adult industry were the first large scale content websites that drove innovation Yes, absolutely no one uses an iPhone to go to Pornhub and spank themselves into oblivion because Steve and Tim said it's wrong